Pat & Roger's maternal great great great grandfather Pat & Roger's maternal great great great grandmother

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John BARNARD
married 6 February 1819 to Mary BEECROFT Cheshunt (no way of confirming that this is correct marriage but seems highly likely)

 

BORN c.1791=1841 census [1841 censuses have rounded ages] ( possibly 1785 by death age?) Hertfordshire. MIGHT!!!? be christening 17 Sep 1786 Stanstead Abbots, father John, mother Sarah

BORN c. 1801 Hertfordshire [based on 1841 census age]. MIGHT be Christening 26 Jan 1800 Cheshunt

DIED 29 August 1845, at Church Gate Cheshunt, of apoplexy, aged 60, informant on death certificate is Thomas Sworder, coroner, Hertford

Parish records burial records (Findmypast.co.uk):

date of burial 5 Sep 1845

Cheshunt, St Mary the Virgin

aged "60" (= born c. 1785)

 

Died 14 July 1860 aged 60

Burial 18 July 1860 Cheshunt Cemetery (www.deceasedonline.com), so Jul-Aug-Sep 1860 Edmonton, 3a, 99

Cheshunt Cemetery grave reference /AF/24

Cemetery is Bury Green Road, Cheshunt, EN7 5AG

OCCUPATION

1819 James's baptism: housekeeper

1824 John's baptism: sawyer

1841 census: Carpenter (aged "50")

OCCUPATION

1841 census: none listed (aged "40")

1851 census: (widow) charwoman (aged "50")

 

 

ADDRESS

At 1841 census: Church Gate, Cheshunt, Herts, born in county

 

ADDRESS

 

At 1841 census: with husband, born in county

At 1851 census: Church Gate, Cheshunt, Herts, born in Cheshunt

At death 1860 Church Gate, Cheshunt

 

 

KNOWN CHILDREN

JAMES (SHOULD BE 22 IN 1841) Born 14 March 1819, baptised April 4 1819, Cheshunt, father John (occupation house keeper), mother Mary, of Church Gate, Cheshunt [Hertfordshire Archives, via findmypast.co.uk]
NOT IN CHESHUNT CENSUS 1841 great great grandfather -- already in London? -- married there in 1844 (possibly/probably 1841 census aged 20 carman of Tash Court, St Andrew Holborn not born in county).

MARY (1841 census 20), with parents, female servant; aka MARY ANN married James Davis (mariner) of 16 Weston Park, Holborn [=Whetstone Park, Holborn which runs parallel with High Holborn, north of Lincoln in Fields and south of High Holborn -- still extant], father William Davis (carman), in Islington, St Mary on August 19 1844. Holborn location and father in law''s occupation suggest possible link with James Barnard. Mary Ann's address given as "Cheshunt" in marriage certificate. In 1851 Mary Ann (aged 29) and James (aged 27) (no occupations or places of birth stated) are living in Bromley St Leonard, Poplar in East London (Fitzroy Cottage, Grundy St). Also there is Joseph Barnard (see below) aged 17

JOHN (NOT IN CHESHUNT CENSUS 1841, died 1839) born 16 July 1824, baptised 15 August 1824, son of John (sawyer) and Mary of Church Gate. Buried 25 Nov 1839 aged 15, St Mary the Virgin, Cheshunt

THOMAS (NOT IN CHESHUNT CENSUS 1841) born 18 January 1827, baptised 11 February 1827, son of John (carpenter) and Mary of Church Gate

WILLIAM (13 in 1841, so born c 1828)

ELIZA (10 in 1841 census), at 1851 census with mother, aged 20, needlewoman. In 1852 is also in Poplar, marries Frederick Smith (widower, surgeon) on March 17 1852 at All Saints, Poplar(son of James Smith, merchant) residence says Poplar. One of the witnesses is Mary Ann Davis. Frederick is a veterinary surgeon. No trace of him in censuses after marriage -- in 1861 Eliza is in Cheshunt ("Cheshunt School") with daughter Mary E aged 7 (MARY ELIZABETH SMITH, Islington Apr-May-Jun 1854, 1b 190) -- Eliza is described as "veterinary surgeon's wife"/ Still no Frederick in 1871, Eliza (still "wife") and at College Road, Cheshunt; Mary E is dressmaker aged 16. In 1881 Eliza described as widow aged 50 and is with daughter, now Mary E Miles in Brighton, where Mary E is married to George Miles, "baker grocer" employing two men.  1891 Eliza (aged 60) is still with daughter in Brighton but 37 year old Mary E is now married to one Edward Greenfield, aged 26, baker and grocer. Eliza is "widow living on own means" 1901, same household (but more kids); Eliza now 70. Ditto 1911 aged 80. Died Jan-Feb-Mar 1913, aged 82 Brighton 2b 283

JOSEPH (8 in 1841) b 26 July 1833, chr 25 Aug 1833 no mother maiden name given, cf Charles. In 1851 staying with sister Mary Ann Davis and husband in Bromley St Leonard. On 19 August 1852 marries Eliza Kingsbury At Bromley St Leonards. Joseph's occupation is policeman. Address of both Joseph and Eliza is Fitzroy Cottage and one of the witnesses is Mary Ann Davis. In 1861 census Joseph is back in Cheshunt, address Cheshunt School (with Eliza, born East Peckham Kent, aged 29). He is a "letter carrier". Their son, John, aged 4 born in Poplar (Poplar Jul-Aug-Sep 1856, 1c 597), so move back to Cheshunt is late1856 or later.

In 1851 Eliza had been a servant at the Royal Naval School in NewCross/Deptford (now the site of Goldsmiths, University of London)

CAROLINE (4 in 1841) 1851 aged 14, with mother, scholar (In 1861 aged 24 is in service at 83 Harley St (cook) with her niece, Eliza ????maid aged 16 = daughter of James Barnard. Employer is William Wallace (born Cheshunt) East India merchant.
In 1871 is at Sherborne Park, Gloucestershire, dairy maid. House is occupied by 20 servants. James Henry Legge Dutton, 3rd Baron Sherborne (1804-83) and family are obviously at one of the baron's other houses.
In 1881, Caroline (43) is a servant (nurse) at Aston Hall, Cheshire, one of 11 servants. Head of house is Robert Daglish (Jnr)(see below)*
In 1891 Caroline is a grocer at 3 Rifle Butt Road, Rottingdean (Brighton) so presumably in contact with her sister Eliza. Probably died Jan-Feb-Mar 1899, aged 62 Brighton 2b 160

CHARLES (3 in 1841) Christening records give 13 Feb 1838 as birth, 18 March as christening, Cheshunt. Mother's maiden name not given and there doesn't seem to be a birth certificate.  In 1851 census, with mother, aged 13. Can't trace him after this

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*Robert Daglish Junior

Daglish, Robert (Senior)
Marshall. The elder Daglish was born in Northumberland on 21 December 1777 and died in Orrell, near Wigan on 28 December 1865. In 1804 he settled in Wigan as engineer to Lord Belcarres, becoming manager of the Haigh Foundry and Brock Mill Forge. He then became manager of the Orrell Colliery and built a railway to it where he introduced steam traction using a Blenkinsop and Murray rack type of locomotive known as the Yorkshire Horse. He also projected the Bolton & Leigh Railway opened in 1828. He was one of the projectors of, and a partner in, the St Helens Foundry See C.F. Dendy Marshall History of the railway locomotive down to the year 1831: Chapter 3 (Blenkinsop and Murray) the latter part of which is given over to Robert Daglish (Senior) and documents supporting his claim, including letters contained at Wigan Public Library and a letter by Benjamin Hick dated 30 September 1822 published in Kaleidoscope, or Literary and Scientific Mirror of 8 October 1822 (relating back to letters from Daglish in issue for 24 September). Ottley 403 cites J. Transport Hist., 1962, 5, 146-8 for article by J.H.M. Bankes and J.R. Harris: The first Lancashire locomotive.. .

Daglish, Robert (Junior)
The son was born in Wigan on 16 September 1808 and was apprenticed to Rothwell, Hick & Co. of Bolton. In 1830 Robert Daglish Jr joined Lee, Watson & Co, iron founders at St Helens who, in 1832, built an engine and machinery for working the inclines on the St Helens & Runcorn Gap Railway. In 1837-8 he contracted for erection of engines, boilers and machinery for glass manufacture at Birmingham and St Helens. In about 1839 Daglish, with John Smith, undertook to work the traffic on the St Helens & Runcom Gap Railway and continued to do this until 1848, maintaining locomotives and rolling stock at Sutton shed at St Helens In 1846 he contracted for bridges on the Liverpool & Bury line of the LYR, including two large iron lattice girder bridges near Bolton, the first of their type. In 1849 Robert Daglish Jr & Co built the iron bridges for the Tithebarn Street extension of the LYR at Liverpool. From 1851 Daglish conducted the foundry business alone until 1869 when he took his nephew George H. Daglish into partnership. In 1852 he erected the coal drops at the LNWR docks at Garston on the Mersey. He was a director of the St Helens Canal & Railway Co, 1854-64, and of the LYR, 1876-83.Marshall. Lowe Supplement states that St Helens Railway & Canal Co. locomotives Nos 13 Forth (four coupled of 1852) and No. 12 Saracen (six coupled of 1858) were constructed at the St Helens Foundry as well as other locomotives for industrial railways. Robert junior died in London on 6 May 1883. Also John Marshall and Michael R. Bailey in Chrimes..

 

 

 

 

 

PARENTS

POSSIBLY JOHNBARNARD/Sarah

PARENTS

POSSIBLY
John Beecroft married Sarah Randall 5 December 1790, Cheshunt (source IGI)